I really like the Sora pics...they are pretty cool looking once you study them a bit.

I was just out to Orange County two weeks ago and drove up into LA for Spotted Dove but dipped bigtime. Any suggestions on where to find them? I have heard that the Malibu lagoon area might be a good spot, but I didn't have a chance to get up there. I pretty much drove every road in Palos Verdes, Redondo, Hermosa and Manhattan Beaches but to no avail (my friend used to live out in Hermosa and used to see Spotted Doves everyday...except, of course, for the the a few days I went out to visit him in 2002).