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RaptorBirder
December 3rd, 2007, 06:40 AM
Admin

You mentioned in another thread that you're seeking to make Surfbirds the best of the community-type birding sites, including by retaining good points from the others. I for one applaud this approach.

Can I therefore suggest that you take another look at your Photo Album section please?

I like the format and the quick rating guide features. However, I've found that the following data which is available at another site are particularly valuable:

Scientific Name - avoids confusion, especially as there are different naming conventions in use in different countries (eg. the term Sparrowhawk is often used in the USA for what Europeans know as American Kestrel whereas the scientific name Falco sparverius is universal). For similar reasons, it also allows a much more effective search to be made if, for example, one wishes to view different images of the same species.

Location - provides a frequently critical insight to the potential identification and importance of photographs. This information, coupled with the date (see below), can elevate the scientific importance of otherwise mediocre images.

Date (of taking, not posting) - another critical piece of data when one is looking closely at plumage and moult characteristics. Without this information, the value of the posted photographs as a reference source is greatly reduced.

Of less interest to me personally is the Equipment used but I'm sure there are lots of photographer out there who would relish these details being included.

If space on the page is an issue, do we really need to see the File Size and Dimensions data?Personally, I've never used either of this information and anyway it's already available by clicking on properties isn't it?

Ultimately, I guess it depends upon the overall purpose of the Photo Album. If it's just intended to be a random collection of images for people to share and rate that's fine.

However, with minimal improvements it has the real potential to offer a great deal more than that by becoming a valuable reference source to all members interested in looking beyond the aesthetics into details such as: identification features, plumage characteristics, including colour morphs, moult patterns, distribution, etc. etc.

Hope you'll view this as constructive criticism and keep up the good work.

Stephen R
December 3rd, 2007, 06:39 PM
Is there another way to get to the gallery from the main forum other then clicking on the pictures? i might be being thick about this one...;) also when i do get there i find it hard to navigate around and get out of it.
thanks for your time.

Nighthawk
December 3rd, 2007, 11:05 PM
Is there another way to get to the gallery from the main forum other then clicking on the pictures? i might be being thick about this one...;) also when i do get there i find it hard to navigate around and get out of it.
thanks for your time.

It's not being thick, daft or anything like it Steve, it's just us all getting used to the Forum which all takes time. Go to the "Photo Albums" just below the "Hello" board, that'll get you there. I had a struggle last week, so it's not just you!:smile:

admin
December 4th, 2007, 06:26 AM
These all seem like good suggestions. I think we can add fields for scientific name, location and date. The albums were just intended to be a way for users to store and share photos (random collection) but adding these fields seems like something we should do anyway. I also agree that the navigation from the albums back to the forums needs to be improved and there should be a forum link in the navigation bar in the albums.

We'll put these on the healthy-sized "to do" list on the site. As with anything on the site (not just the forum) we're very open to executing any suggestions. It's just the time and resources to get it done. So, if you've made a suggestion for something you'd like to see on Surfbirds but don't see it happening immediately, it's not because we don't want to do it, it's just prioritizing what's most important.

Thanks again for the input. Andy
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Nighthawk
December 5th, 2007, 02:28 AM
For now until things are changed:

To get back from 'Albums' to the 'Forums', click on 'Member's list, then click on 'Forums' and you're where you want to be. At least it helps for now.

AndyB
December 5th, 2007, 06:03 AM
ouch, that is a lot of work to find your way back - we'll elevate that navigation issue up the list.

Nighthawk
December 5th, 2007, 06:07 PM
ouch, that is a lot of work to find your way back

Not at all, in fact it's so easy I just wanted others to know HOW easy.

No problems here at all.

AndyB
December 6th, 2007, 03:42 AM
I applaud your detective work. Follow Nighthawk's directions until we get a more prominent link built.

john robinson
December 6th, 2007, 10:17 PM
Andy
If I go on the index page and click on "My albums " on the top bar it takes me to the dreaded "Page Unavailable "
Any ideas ?
I reckon the site is coming on very well and like others I only find the gallereis a bit confusing. Having two different login details doesn't help either.

Cheers
John

admin
December 7th, 2007, 07:48 AM
Thanks for spotting that broken link John. It's now been fixed. Best, Andy
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