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RaptorBirder
December 4th, 2007, 09:17 PM
I clearly underestimated the ID skills out there so here's a potentially more challenging subject captured in Europe.

What's this species please?

greenwithensbirder
December 4th, 2007, 09:21 PM
a quick guess hen harrier

Nighthawk
December 5th, 2007, 02:13 AM
I think I'd be inclined to go for Hen Harrier as well.

AndyB
December 5th, 2007, 06:08 AM
What on earth is it doing? Has it just dropped its prey or did it chase it in to the water? I guess I'd go for harrier. Interesting shot.

Stephen R
December 5th, 2007, 09:17 AM
i'll be different and go for peregrine?

Joe Ray
December 5th, 2007, 01:14 PM
I'll go with Hen Harrier.

greenwithensbirder
December 7th, 2007, 06:44 PM
well what is it please?

RaptorBirder
December 8th, 2007, 03:09 AM
Hi Darrell

Sorry to keep you in suspense but there haven't been any correct answers yet!

AndyB
December 8th, 2007, 06:22 AM
Really??! Ok, I'm looking at it again and now I think I can see facial disc, so perhaps an owl (although I can see why everyone went for harrier because tail looks long) - Short-eared?

Graham Etherington
December 8th, 2007, 08:15 PM
Judging by the large size, amount of barring on the primaries, the long rounded tail, and scalloping on the back, I'd say a 1st-year female Northern Goshawk.

greenwithensbirder
December 8th, 2007, 08:18 PM
must admit i thought goshawk but the tail looks to long from experience of the bird,though i'm usually wrong anyway!!!!

Joe Ray
December 8th, 2007, 09:05 PM
To be different, I'll go with Kestrel, although instict says otherwise.

Nighthawk
December 9th, 2007, 12:27 AM
I think the only one it could be is a Goshawk, though do we know where it was taken?

RaptorBirder
December 9th, 2007, 09:46 AM
Well done Graham for breaking the deadlock!

And for such a specific and accurate identification too.

I've added another image which shows the very ambitious juvenile female Goshawk in a more typical pose, apparently trying her luck at one of the Greylags.

I believe the second image was actually captured just before original the Raptor Riddle 2 shot, which explains the water splash that Andy was intrigued by.

I think this case illustrates just how still images can sometimes capture raptors in unusual poses which can then lead to incorrect identifications.

Thanks to all who had a go!

RaptorBirder

PS. Images captured by Esa Ervasti (Finland).

macrourus
January 6th, 2008, 07:39 PM
Indeed I think its a 1st y A.gentilis female...
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macrourus
January 6th, 2008, 07:40 PM
OOOOPs I did not seen before there was a 2nd page of mails with in fact the right solution...
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