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DDolan1075
June 22nd, 2009, 06:34 PM
I have Photoshop Elements 7.0 and have gotten behind in my filing system. I file by species based on my Eastern Sibley's page numbers. So Northern Parula would be 3 33 Northern Parula as the folder heading with that folder within 3 28 Wood Warblers as the folder for all of the warblers. 333 is the page number that I find the Northern Parula and 328 is the page number for the beginning of the Wood Warblers in Sibleys book.

Anyways, as I was saying before getting sidetracked, I am way behind in my filing. I have 34 downloads since the beginning of the year with over 17,000 pictures that I need to go through and either file or delete. That in and of itself is a bit of a problem, but not unmanageable. The problem is that every time you want to move a file in Elements it has to go through some thinking and resetting and what happens is that after I move a file, I wait about 10 seconds or more and then get sent to the top of the file again. To top that off, there are so many pictures that I can't see the contents of the file on the thumbnail, but instead only see an hourglass.

What I want to do is go through these files without having to deal with Elements and move them all to the folders that they will end up in and then let Elements become reacquainted with them again as new pictures. Can I delete all of those pictures from the (I can't remember if it is Album or Catalog) and then work on everything and then reacquire them when they are filed?

Do you follow me on that? Basically I want to use my Nikon Program to look at and move the files and thengo back to Elements and have the target folders be "Watched Folders" so that the files will automatically be found.

My next step is to move everything onto my external hard drive but keep a copy of the good ones on my computer too. Ideally, I want to get the Gold Edition of Thayers and put my pictures on that which will include views from all sides of the birds and also better calls and songs from other sources. That is the plan, but I am a big thinker and may not go all the way through with that.

DDolan1075
June 22nd, 2009, 06:54 PM
What I have done is deleted the photos from the catalogs without deleting them from the hard drive and then deleting or moving them to the appropriate folders then allowing Elements to reacquire them inthe correct location. Much faster that way. It took very little time to move them and stay in the folder without resetting everything after every move. My question is will there be any deleterious effects with doing things this way?

AndyB
June 23rd, 2009, 05:35 AM
Hi Dave, sorry not much help with Elements. I've recently downloaded Google's free Picasa. Very easy to organize photos in to galleries and very fast too. Not sure if it has any of the functionality you're looking for:
http://picasa.google.com/

DDolan1075
June 23rd, 2009, 06:37 AM
Hey Andy, no I use Elements to work on my pictures but it needs to keep track of the files and doesn't like it when I move files with an outside program.

Colin Key
June 23rd, 2009, 01:24 PM
That is the plan, but I am a big thinker........

Yep, can't argue with that Dave!!

I have read through your post a couple of times and am not absolutely certain that I see what you are trying to achieve.

I use Photoshop Elements 6 (that is the current latest version for Mac) for processing, but after I have converted my RAW files (I always shoot RAW) in Canon's own DPP ("Digital Photography Professional") software to 8-bit TIFFS.

My most arduous job is deleting the rubbish prior to this - if I shoot 200 or so images I only retain 5 - 10, the rest are "binned". It sounds as though you are a "serial keeper"!

I have given up the amassing of large numbers of photos with a view to cataloguing them in systematic order (in the same way that I have given up keeping bird "lists"), which is what you seem to be striving to achieve. What is the point?

Processed images are saved into separate folders on my hard-drive (and backed up onto two externals) with one for "Prints" (large, high rezz files), another for "Web Publication".

I publish my processed images on my PBase ( http://www.pbase.com/ ) site under categories like "Waders", "Gulls", "Warblers", etc. I also use the "Photobucket" web-hosting site for assigning URLs to photos which I want embed in internet forums such as this or my blog. I am now considering moving my published photos to Zenfolio ( http://www.zenfolio.com/ ). Photobucket is free but there is an annual fee for both PBase and Zenfolio.

I might come back and have another look at this when I get more time, but for now my advice would be to do a bit of "house-keeping" (and get rid of most of your images!) and only retain the best in one of the "paid" web-hosting sites mentioned above.

I did have a "Picasa" site, which Andy mentions, for organisation and photo-tagging, but never really got on with it.

Regards,

Colin

DDolan1075
June 23rd, 2009, 05:16 PM
Hey Colin, I am a serial keeper! I use the pictures to remember what I did and to enjoy the past through my pictures. As I get more pictures I will delete the bad ones, but I like to go to the Elements Date View to see the days events. The plan is to go through and delete heavily, but I like to keep the species together so that I will be able to find pictures of that species when I want them. It just seemed like a good idea at the time.

I do use Photobucket to post here and on my blog. I imagine I will run out of room at some point, but will deal with that when it happens. I shoot in Raw with a jpeg so that I can see the pictures in other programs. I also like the colors from my jpegs at times better than my Raw pics.