unidentidied 'Hooded' crow in Oslo

[Anton Antonov]

What is this strange Crow - the pic was taken in Oslo and the observer assures me it was much smaller than a 'normal' hooded crow (it was a size of a Jackdaw) and notice that the black hood is less than what should be expected for a normal hooded crow?!

[mike parker]

Try a google search on daurian jackdaw.Looks like one to me

[Odonate]

Not sure that it is a Daurian Jackdaw. There seems to be too much grey on the back. The bill also looks too fine for a Jackdaw and the jizz is all wrong. Not sure what it is though - my best guess based on jizz alone would be a wierd Blackbird but I don't think it is. Any more photos??

O

[Brian S]

Looks just like a normal Hooded Crow to me. what makes you think it is not?

Brian S

[birdertrev]

Quite frankly if anyone thinks that could be a weird blackbird you have been doing some pretty crazy drugs !!!!!
:laugh:

[JanJ]

If you look at these pic. the features for separating Daurian Jackdaw from Hooded Crow will stand out quite obvious. For those who don´t know, note that adult and younger Daurian's looks quite different.

http://www.lintukuva.fi/lajikuvat/cordau/

JanJ

[MichaelF]

Try a google search on daurian jackdaw.Looks like one to meGrey mantle excludes Daurian Jackdaw. Has to be a Hoodie.

[firstrees]

Bog standard Hoodie, I'm afraid.

It's just that the grey mantle/scapulars are obscuring/hanging over the black wing-feathers. That's why it looks slightly odd.

Also, I find that size can often be deceptive- especially with something 'stuck' on the top of a tree.

The Daurian I've seen were unmistakable black and white, even at considerable distance- several kilometres !

But those pix from Mongolia are an eye-opener, indeed. Is that one with the white spot on its neck (200/201) an intergrade, or what ? And what about 209, for instance ? I'm intrigued.

Please tell us more, JanJ.

[JanJ]

Two colour morphs, dark or pied. All adults and a few juveniles birds are Pied morph.
Dark morph usually all younger, first winters birds with dark necks and with variable paler featertips on the headsides if I got that right.
I think Paul Leader wrote an ID article about this in British Birds 2003, dont remember which issue.

JanJ

[MichaelF]

I think Paul Leader wrote an ID article about this in British Birds 2003, dont remember which issue
Looked up: 96: 520-523 (October 2003).

[John Bell]

Bog standard Hoodie, I'm afraid.

It's just that the grey mantle/scapulars are obscuring/hanging over the black wing-feathers. That's why it looks slightly odd.

Also, I find that size can often be deceptive- especially with something 'stuck' on the top of a tree.


I think you sum it up well fistress,
John

[Odonate]

Quite frankly if anyone thinks that could be a weird blackbird you have been doing some pretty crazy drugs !!!!!


I had just woken up and wasn't seeing all that straight (although better than a few hours previously)!

O

[Anton Antonov]

According to the expert on hybrids in birds, Prof. Glenn-Peter Satre, this might be a Hooded Crow X Jackdaw hybrid. Such are not recorded so far but Rook X Jackdaw hybrids are known.