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  • Bird ID please

    Shot this one today but canīt find it in my books. At least I canīt be sure. And yes I did order the Collins but I still havenīt received it.

    Bert

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  • #2
    Tawny Pipit Bert, I think it might be a juvenile.

    Colin

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    • #3
      Portugese id

      Clearly a Woodlark to me

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      • #4
        Originally posted by birder1804 View Post
        Clearly a Woodlark to me
        Absolutely, without doubt a Woodlark.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by birder1804 View Post
          Clearly a Woodlark to me
          Me to.
          Note short tail and long supercilium. We donīt see the vide pale tips to the dark primary coverts propely but itīs surely hinted.

          Janj

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          • #6
            I do not see Woodlark at all with this bird.

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            • #7
              Well I think it is Tawny Pipit, seen a few but I dont think it is a Woodlark (see plenty of them)

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              • #8
                Agree it is 100% woodlark

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                • #9
                  The long primary projection beyond the tertials means that it's impossible for this bird to be a Tawny Pipit. It's a Woodlark.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mafting View Post
                    The long primary projection beyond the tertials means that it's impossible for this bird to be a Tawny Pipit. It's a Woodlark.
                    Totaly agree, as said by others as well its DEFINATELY a Woodlark. A.

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                    • #11
                      http://www.pbase.com/njutaren/image/100875185

                      http://www.pbase.com/image/76058866

                      Apart from whatīs been said - note structure, the billshape and colour apart from that a juvenile Tawny or a Woodlark for that matter (making it an adult worn Woodlark), at this time of year would be perfectly fresh, or nearby so.

                      JanJ

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JanJ View Post
                        apart from that a juvenile Tawny or a Woodlark for that matter (making it an adult worn Woodlark), at this time of year would be perfectly fresh, or nearby so.

                        JanJ
                        I think you're wrong there, JanJ - adult and juv Woodlarks both undergo complete summer moult, so both will be moulting at the moment (first broods juvs at least). Only examination of wear on feathers being dropped would separate them on age.

                        The bird is definitely moulting, as it seems to have dropped all/most of the median coverts (quills visible on the greater coverts). This wouldn't rule out a Tawny Pipit either though, as adults have complete summer moult and juvs have partial (probably involving some wing coverts and tail).

                        But it's not a Tawny Pipit anyway

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mafting View Post
                          I think you're wrong there, JanJ - adult and juv Woodlarks both undergo complete summer moult, so both will be moulting at the moment (first broods juvs at least). Only examination of wear on feathers being dropped would separate them on age.

                          The bird is definitely moulting, as it seems to have dropped all/most of the median coverts (quills visible on the greater coverts). This wouldn't rule out a Tawny Pipit either though, as adults have complete summer moult and juvs have partial (probably involving some wing coverts and tail).

                          But it's not a Tawny Pipit anyway
                          Of course! And see:

                          http://www.ibercajalav.net/img/301_WoodlarkLarborea.pdf

                          JanJ
                          Last edited by JanJ; August 3rd, 2009, 10:12 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JanJ View Post

                            Thanks for that link - what a great resource.

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                            • #15
                              Woodlark 100%

                              Hi there,
                              Woodlark 100 % with black alula, short tail with lack of bright white outer tail feathers and nothing like Tawny Pipit!
                              Tawny Pipits are breeding now with young in the nest near the Loire estuary and I think Woodlarks there are now in the plumage like this Woodlark!
                              Kind regards a P pit spotter noting their weepeckers which are thinner than this stubby billed lark having a lark which is no p pit!

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