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    I am posting this image of a Stone Curlew taken by "Faisca" and originally published on "Forum Aves" - without his permission, hope he does not mind. This is digiscoped with the Zeiss Diascope 85 T FL and Pentax K20D:







    Incredible image, and beautiful composition - it does not get much better than this with a digiscoping set-up.

    Well done,

    Colin

  • #2
    That's a fantastic image, your right.. it does'nt get much better than that!

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    • #3
      Amazing, I was unaware such quality was possible with a digiscoping set-up
      Dan

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Danacobius View Post
        Amazing, I was unaware such quality was possible with a digiscoping set-up
        Dan
        Me too Dan after my digiscoping efforts a few years ago. This image looks as though it was taken with top level DSLR and long lens.

        I 'take my hat off' to Faisca for his expertise - he is one of the top grade photographers in Portugal.

        Colin

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        • #5
          awesome! amazing picture! But I bet there was some pretty awesome light to go with it....
          sigpic

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          • #6
            The Pentax K20D is a DLSR camera, and I suspect that this photo has been achieved using the Zeiss SLR adaptor (as in my experience very few DLSRs can shoot through a scope eyepiece). This would also explain the quality as the scope is now a prime lens.

            If I'm right, then this is not truly digiscoping which is combining a compact digital camera with a scopes eyepiece.

            Stunning image though!
            Steve
            A birdwatching guide to Lesvos
            www.lesvosbirding.com
            www.toadsnatcher.com
            Watching British Dragonflies

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Steve Dudley View Post
              The Pentax K20D is a DLSR camera, and I suspect that this photo has been achieved using the Zeiss SLR adaptor (as in my experience very few DLSRs can shoot through a scope eyepiece). This would also explain the quality as the scope is now a prime lens.

              If I'm right, then this is not truly digiscoping which is combining a compact digital camera with a scopes eyepiece.

              Stunning image though!
              I hear what you say Steve, but digital camera + telescope = digiscoping. I have tried using a Canon DSLR mounted onto my Swaro 80 HD with the 800mm adapter and was very disappointed with the results. Faísca uses a variety of combinations of kit and seems to have mastered them all - Portuguese publications are full of his excellent images.

              Colin

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Steve Dudley View Post
                The Pentax K20D is a DLSR camera, and I suspect that this photo has been achieved using the Zeiss SLR adaptor (as in my experience very few DLSRs can shoot through a scope eyepiece). This would also explain the quality as the scope is now a prime lens.

                If I'm right, then this is not truly digiscoping which is combining a compact digital camera with a scopes eyepiece.

                Stunning image though!
                "Digiscoping" is defined online as taking a photograph using a digital camera, utilising a telecope instead of a lens, i couldnt find anywhere where it states the eyepiece of the scope must be also used ( except on the Svarowski website, but as they dont seem to do SLR adaptors then they would wouldnt they !! )

                Having known Sparky ( Faisca in Portugal ) for several years now, i can probably comment on some aspects of his technique, although Paul Hackett knows far more than I as he and Sparky are very good friends, and also worked together when Paul worked for Zeiss.

                Sparky does indeed use a Zeiss SLR adaptor for most of his shots, but its not that which makes his shots so exceptional. A few years ago he was using a Canon 350D and i asked him if he would like to try one of my 1D's on his setup. His reply was quite surprising, but very logical. He stated that the people at Zeiss wanted him to use lower specification of cameras as it showed to all and sundry the capabilities of the Zeiss scope and adaptor, their reasoning being that if people saw he was using a top end SLR it would take away credit from the scope itself.

                In my experience most digiscopers get unsatisfactory results due mainly to expectations and lack of knowledge of their equipment, whereas Sparky knows his equipment inside out, but thats not solely where his expertise lies. Sparky adopts techniques used by professional nature photographers, instead of standing at the edge of a field or in a fixed hide, he actively places hides, uses stealth and cover to get closer to his quarry. I am willing to bet that the Stone Curlew image here was taken at less than 15 metres distance, and will be more or less a full frame image, hence the superior quality.
                Last edited by Steve Fletcher; December 14th, 2010, 09:01 PM.
                www.extremaduraphotos.webs.com

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                • #9
                  A simple "agree".

                  Best wishes,

                  Colin

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                  • #10
                    We'll agree to disagree. I've just personally never heard anyone referring to DSLR/scope combos as digiscoping before.

                    Digiscoping arrived before DLSR took off and as compact digital cameras were took up and combined with scopes shooting through the eyepiece. For me, using a DLSR with a scope as a prime lens is simply photography, not digiscoping as I, and I'm sure, many digiscopers know and understand it.

                    From what Steve's says, Sparky uses his setup as a photographer does a prime lens and adopts what most will consider photographic techniques. Birders 'digiscoping' do so as an add on to birding, their scope is primarily a scope to which they can occasionally add a digital compact camera.

                    SLR (now DSLR) adaptors have been around for donkies year, but very few birders took them up as they didn't want to carry the additional gea, it was cumbersome switching from birding scope, removing the eyepiece, putting on an adaptor, then the camera - whoops - bird gone (you can see why digiscoping took off now - it was far more simple). Julian Balhero was a notable exception in using his Kowa with an SLR adaptor with effective results, but few others persevered.
                    Steve
                    A birdwatching guide to Lesvos
                    www.lesvosbirding.com
                    www.toadsnatcher.com
                    Watching British Dragonflies

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                    • #11
                      Whatever it is called ( to me its doesnt matter, ill easily concede ) he gets great results for sure. He has some amazing Black Shouldered Kite ( or should that be Black Winged Kite ) and Barn Owl images.

                      Come on Paul ( the ex-moustachiod one ), lets have your opinion.

                      By the way, i spelled Swarovski incorrectly, but thats ok, a well known West Country birding tour operator cannot spell Extremadura
                      www.extremaduraphotos.webs.com

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                      • #12
                        Come on Paul ( the ex-moustachiod one ), lets have your opinion.

                        Within the "brotherhood of Digiscoping" DSLR Digiscoping is and has been classed as digiscoping, there are two modes of using DSLR, one with DSLR body, a 50mm prime lens attached to eyepiece and scope, ( very popular in the USA ) the other is using the manufacturer's photo adapter, DSLR, and T2 ring straight onto a scope body minus the eypiece. ( more popular in europe )

                        Sparky takes a great pic, spent a few days last October with him outside of Lisbon, great guy, great experience, spent too many hours talking digiscoping !

                        And dont forget Video scoping, Digibinning and Phonescoping, spliting hairs does not detract from the facts, done this hobby far too long to get worked up if it is or it isnt digiscoping

                        My tuppence worth for what its worth

                        Paul

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by paul hackett View Post

                          And dont forget Video scoping, Digibinning and Phonescoping, ............

                          Paul

                          I did a lot of Digibinning in the early years Paul, with the accent on "binning" .

                          Colin

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                          • #14
                            Swarovski adaptor.

                            Steve
                            Swarovski do an adaptor for Digi-scoping itīs called a UCA adaptor and fits both compact and DSLR cameras. Like the telescope itīs not cheap.
                            In the end does it matter whether you use a compact or DSLR with your telescope if you get the results without carrying additional camera gear.
                            The Birdman of Alcossebre.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by the birdman of alcossebre View Post
                              Steve
                              Swarovski do an adaptor for Digi-scoping itīs called a UCA adaptor and fits both compact and DSLR cameras. Like the telescope itīs not cheap.
                              In the end does it matter whether you use a compact or DSLR with your telescope if you get the results without carrying additional camera gear.
                              The Birdman of Alcossebre.
                              Sí, pero, el adaptador de UCA y DCA se ajusta en la parte superior del ocular, el adaptador de Zeiss reemplaza el ocular, creo que eso es lo que el argumento estaba a punto. La gente dice digiscoping cierto utiliza el ocular, y si el ocular se sustituye entonces no es cierto digiscoping. No importa a mí, como dice Paul, es el resultado que cuentan, no es lo que lo llaman.
                              Felice fiestas.

                              Yes, but, the UCA and DCA adaptor fits on top of the eyepiece, the Zeiss adaptor replaces the eyepiece, i think thats what the argument was about. People say true digiscoping uses the eyepiece, and if the eyepiece is replaced then it is not true digiscoping. It does not matter to me, as Paul says, it is the results that count, not what you call it.
                              www.extremaduraphotos.webs.com

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