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    Please help me out here.

    Sitting on our terrace we saw 3 raptors circling. I shot the nearest one which is photo one.

    Photo two is from a raptor circling half an hour after the 3 first raptors left.

    I still donīt have the Collins (next week) so I do not dare guess.

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    1. Black Kite
    2. Common Buzzard

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    Agree with Steve; you will come to appreciate that the name "Black" Kite can be rather misleading Bert.

    Colin

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    Thanks Colin and Steve, Iīll get there one day.
    Do you want to see the Birds of the Alentejo region in Portugal?

    For more information:

    Birdwatching Alentejo

    For Dutch:

    Vogels in Portugal

    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/birdwatchingalentejo.portugal

    You can stay at our holiday cottages at Monte Horizonte and we can show you the birds.

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    Buzzard are incredibly variable and range from your bird, which is about as dark as they get. To birds that are similar to Booted or Short-toed Eagle in colour. The typically rounded wings and soaring on shallow V can help, but only experience and practice will get you there so stick with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyHargreaves View Post
    Buzzard are incredibly variable and range from your bird, which is about as dark as they get. To birds that are similar to Booted or Short-toed Eagle in colour.
    ...or Red-tailed Hawks, or Rough-legged Buzzards!

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    In my opinion bird 1 is a Common Buzzard too!

    ciao
    Michele

    PS I think that bird 1 is the same of the second photo...look at the primary moult!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heuglini View Post
    In my opinion bird 1 is a Common Buzzard too!

    ciao
    Michele

    PS I think that bird 1 is the same of the second photo...look at the primary moult!
    But the first bird seems to have also lost a secondary in its right wing, but the second bird hasn't?

    Colin

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    I would agree with Heuglini, these photo appear to show the same bird. The front (right) wing has five fingers not six.

    Brian S

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    I keep looking at these, and each time I thought they were both the same bird too,

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