November 22nd, 2011, 06:39 PM
A Few for ID
I have scanned my Field Guide for ages in search of photo 1, but have come to the conclusion it must be a trick of the picture. Firstly, Waders cannot swim, I curlew, whimbrew, etc. can be ruled out. By using the colours and shape and the fact it can swim (And that the beak is a trick of the photo) can anyone identify the bird? (Talking about the bird in the centre of the pic)
For photo 2, I think it is a Rook, but have a suspicion that it is a Carrion crow with its beaks made look white because of the light, any ideas?
Photo 3 is either a lesser black-backed or Yellow legged gull. My field guide suggests a lbbg would need a slate-grey back and a ylg would have a grey back. I cn't tell which colour they are.
I hate to go OTT but I'm not ruling out the Azorean Atlantic Type Yellow-Legged Gull that was around the area at the time the photo was taken. Notice the brown spots all over the head, these are identical to that of a Azorean Yellow Legged.
Last edited by Old World Warbler; November 22nd, 2011 at 06:51 PM.
November 22nd, 2011, 07:00 PM
Here is another picture of the Gull compared to the Azorean Atlantic Type Yellow-Legged Gull.
Notice the brown head on both gulls. (Some Azorean Yellow Legged Gulls have less brown than this some more)
Last edited by Old World Warbler; November 22nd, 2011 at 07:12 PM.
November 22nd, 2011, 07:22 PM
November 22nd, 2011, 07:26 PM
I appreciate these images are poor and blurry and are hard to make out but there's no need to be rude about it. I was hoping some more 'advanced' and 'better educated' birders would be able to identify the less clear birds.
Originally Posted by Tarsiger
November 22nd, 2011, 07:45 PM
OWW, I would tend to agree with Tarsiger with his or her assessment.
The reply was succinct but not rude in my opinion.
As an aside, and this is not meant as a put down, I would say its a little dangerous to assume that because Tarsiger is a 'Junior member' that they are not 'experienced' or 'well educated'.
It is as well to remember that there are some nationally and internationally known birders on this forum behind the various nom de plumes.
November 22nd, 2011, 08:34 PM
I don't mean to be rude at all and I accept your comments but I'm only looking identification-related comments. Has anyone got the faintest suspicions on the birds?
Originally Posted by Danacobius
Thanks anyway dan for sharing your personal opinion.
November 22nd, 2011, 08:52 PM
lesser black backed gull
November 22nd, 2011, 09:05 PM
I refer you to the advice you have been given previously. If you want help from "some more 'advanced' and 'better educated' birders" then I suggest you take that advice. Some of them would be only too keen to help you if you show signs of listening to what you're told, but no matter how good they are they won't be able to accurately identify a bird from a tiny poorly-exposed blurry photo of a distant speck and no description of what you actually saw.
The Rook is the only one of these three that can be 100% positively identified and you should be grateful to Tarsiger for confirming that one for you. The right hand gull is not identifiable but is very, very many times more likely to be a Lesser Black-backed Gull than a Yellow-legged Gull (which is itself many, many times more likely than an Azorean Gull). You might as well forget about scarcer and especially rarer birds until you've got to grips with the common ones.
November 22nd, 2011, 09:22 PM
May I ask what camera set up 'Old World Warbler' is using? Do you actually scope the birds first and attempt to ID them from a decent field guide or are you merely using Surfbird members to do the work for you?
November 22nd, 2011, 09:41 PM