December 10th, 2011, 04:15 PM
A Few More Please
Photo 1: Greylag Goose? Presumably a more domesticated one but the orange legs swayed me toward Lesser white fronted even though I know its probably not.
Photo 2: This male Mallard was seen flying off, with a female Tufted Duck. Is it actually a Tufted Duck, or is it a Scaup or just a Mallard. It doesn't look like one.
Photo 3: A Little or Cattle Egret. The beak looks orange and if you look at the feathers very carefully towards the bottom of the birds feathers (On the very bottom left of the feathers), you may notice a tinge of an orangey colour. Is it a Cattle Egret?
Photo 4+5: Just domestic Geese?
Last edited by Old World Warbler; December 10th, 2011 at 04:26 PM.
December 10th, 2011, 04:28 PM
The MAIN QUESTION OF THE DAY:
Is this a first patch tick on MY patch: Is it a Scaup, back looks grey there is no trick of the light. With a definate Tuftie for comparison.
December 10th, 2011, 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by Old World Warbler
#1 yes greylag goose
#2 both mallards but you may have convinced yourself its scaup!!
#3 little egret given your description versus the very poor 'photo' its still a little egret
#4+5 geese though surprised you did not mention snow geese
also which of the 3 tufted ducks is a 'scaup'?
i know you will not accept the above answers
December 11th, 2011, 07:56 AM
The duck in the middle appeared to have a grey...ish back and different markings to the bird just next to it on the right.
Originally Posted by greenwithensbirder
I will accept your above answers, and I am presuming the white geese are not snow geese.
December 11th, 2011, 09:36 AM
Old World Warbler
You are prime material for a birding apprenticeship
You are clearly a very regular visitor to Marston Vale where one of my good friends is very often on hand at weekends to help and guide visitors in terms of birdlife. His name is Martin Green and I am sure he will be more than happy to take you on a guided stroll around the reserve and provide you with useful tips on how to identify birds.
The best way of becoming familiar with what you are seeing is to join those with experience and learn from them. This is a great time of year to learn many of the wildfowl, as the majority are now in full plumage and can be readily separated. The gulls, I am afraid, are exceedingly difficult to identify, and can remain so throughout the entire life of a birdwatcher
Within a year of good training, it would be possible to identify 170 species of bird without too much difficulty in the UK. I am not sure that you are learning too much from just asking what birds these are in the images.
One thing though, the images are clearly useful in determining what you have seen after the event, so they do remain a very useful aid to identification, but it all depends on whether you want to learn more and perhaps id the birds before you take pictures of them. I am often at Marston Vale myself, so if you are around at some point - I would have no hesitation in providing you with an identification workshop for a morning or afternoon
December 11th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Well thank you very much Lee. I would love to spend a afternoon learning more about identification with you or Martin at Marston Vale. I wouldnt call myself that regular a visitor to Marston Vale and might struggle on finding time in school term time, as I am busy every Saturday morning and occasionally the afternoons. I'm sure it will not be too hard find a date we are both free though.
Originally Posted by LeeEvans
I am not sure if you are aware that I am only 13, so would have to take my Dad up with me (Which he says is fine), I'm presuming that's not a problem.
December 12th, 2011, 09:23 AM
Workshop in Bird Identification
OWW, apologies, as I had no idea that you were as young as 13 - you certainly came across as being older than that......
Anyway, thats immaterial, as your interest in the subject needs to be nurtured and encouraged and it is my duty to ensure that you fulfil any such goals in birdwatching. I can see that you are very keen to learn
Through this medium, I shall let you know when I am going to be at Marston Vale on a Saturday morning and shall arrange a morning's workshop for you and hopefully talk you through the basics. I will try and sort this out for the week after Christmas or in January.
Just to let you know, there is a GREAT NORTHERN DIVER at Stewartby Lake at the moment. This is what we call a LOCAL MEGA, with just 21 previous records in the county - a 'must see' bird in effect
December 12th, 2011, 03:49 PM
Many apologies. I knew you would have no idea of my age.
Originally Posted by LeeEvans
As I have mentioned it may be hard to find a date I am free as I am usually busy on Saturday mornings and occasionally afternoons. Im sure it won't be too hard arranging a date and time that suits us both.
I had heard about the GN Diver on the lake and popped up there recently the day it was reported. However, the Diver was nowhere to be seen and like the Azorean Yellow Legged Gull I attempted to locate, I had no success.
I Will try to sort out a date with you soon although it may be quite hard considering I am only told whether needed in my sports matches on short notice.
Hope to keep in touch.
Old World Warbler